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thanks Hcdper for the Profiler, this is what i get

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Race Description
Track:Hol Date: 12/4/02 Race: 1 Surface: Dirt Class: Maiden Special Weight
Purse: 41000 Dist: 6.0 furlongs
Calculations: Cumulative WPS Sex Restr: None Age Restr: 3yr olds and up Date Range: 11/06/02 to 12/31/02
Shape: E - Lone Speed Speed Index: Slow Style Count: E - 1, EP - 0, P - 1, S - 1, NA - 3 # Races: 6
Average Fractions: Races at Dist: 5 F1= :00.00 F2= :00.00 F3= :00.00 Final= 1:10.42
Filters Used
Track Date Range Surface Dist. Cat. Class No Off Trks

Horse Analysis (Cumulative WPS Calculations)
1 Commander's Flag(P 1) ML: 1.4 Profiler Odds: 1.15 Profiler Value: 0.43 Rank: 1
2 Time To Strike(E 7) ML: 1.6 Profiler Odds: 1.17 Profiler Value: 0.43 Rank: 2
5 Daddysprideandjoy(NA 0) ML: 20.0 Profiler Odds: 6.96 Profiler Value: 0.07 Rank: 3
3 Ice Fella(S 0) ML: 10.0 Profiler Odds: 7.44 Profiler Value: 0.07 Rank: 4
6 Mackelwane(NA 4) ML: 6.0 Profiler Odds: 50.00 Profiler Value: 0.00 Rank: 5
7 Icy Skies(NA 1) ML: 5.0 Profiler Odds: 50.00 Profiler Value: 0.00 Rank: 5


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Race Description
Track:Hol Date: 12/4/02 Race: 2 Surface: Turf Class: Allowance
Purse: 43000 Dist: 5.5 furlongs
Calculations: Cumulative WPS Sex Restr: Girls and Ladies Age Restr: 3yr olds and up Date Range: 11/06/02 to 12/31/02
Shape: EEE - 3+ E Speed Index: Fast Style Count: E - 3, EP - 0, P - 1, S - 0, NA - 3 # Races: 3
Average Fractions: Races at Dist: 3 F1= :00.00 F2= :00.00 F3= :00.00 Final= 1:02.35
Filters Used
Track Date Range Surface Dist. Cat. Class No Off Trks

Horse Analysis (Cumulative WPS Calculations)
6 Grant Marty A Wish(E 8) ML: 2.5 Profiler Odds: 2.05 Profiler Value: 0.24 Rank: 1
3 Secret Approval(E 7) ML: 3.5 Profiler Odds: 2.49 Profiler Value: 0.20 Rank: 2
5 Centerofattention(P 2) ML: 10.0 Profiler Odds: 3.25 Profiler Value: 0.15 Rank: 3
7 Miss Tropics(E 8) ML: 5.0 Profiler Odds: 3.35 Profiler Value: 0.15 Rank: 4
4 Trebia(NA 0) ML: 8.0 Profiler Odds: 3.76 Profiler Value: 0.13 Rank: 5
1 Keepers Hill(NA 8) ML: 2.0 Profiler Odds: 5.49 Profiler Value: 0.09 Rank: 6
2 Rose Charvier(NA 0) ML: 15.0 Profiler Odds: 17.69 Profiler Value: 0.03 Rank: 7


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Race Description
Track:Hol Date: 12/4/02 Race: 3 Surface: Dirt Class: Maiden Claiming
Purse: 15000 Dist: 7.0 furlongs
Calculations: Cumulative WPS Sex Restr: None Age Restr: 3yr olds and up Date Range: 11/06/02 to 12/31/02
Shape: E + EP - Lone E with EP(s) Speed Index: Slow Style Count: E - 1, EP - 1, P - 2, S - 2, NA - 3 # Races: 5
Average Fractions: Races at Dist: 3 F1= :00.00 F2= :00.00 F3= :00.00 Final= 1:24.94
Filters Used
Track Date Range Surface Dist. Cat. Class No Off Trks

Horse Analysis (Cumulative WPS Calculations)
6 Mark Of A Warrior(P 0) ML: 3.5 Profiler Odds: 1.45 Profiler Value: 0.35 Rank: 1
3 Song Minister(E/P 1) ML: 3.0 Profiler Odds: 3.19 Profiler Value: 0.16 Rank: 2
4 All In Favor(E 3) ML: 4.0 Profiler Odds: 3.36 Profiler Value: 0.15 Rank: 3
2 Topsoff Don'tshake(NA 0) ML: 4.0 Profiler Odds: 4.40 Profiler Value: 0.11 Rank: 4
7 El Prado In Action(S 0) ML: 5.0 Profiler Odds: 7.51 Profiler Value: 0.07 Rank: 5
5 Smokin Bull(NA 1) ML: 20.0 Profiler Odds: 7.69 Profiler Value: 0.07 Rank: 6
9 Siete Slew(P 1) ML: 8.0 Profiler Odds: 9.66 Profiler Value: 0.05 Rank: 7
8 To B Negotiated(NA 0) ML: 30.0 Profiler Odds: 16.18 Profiler Value: 0.03 Rank: 8
1 Max Raj(S 0) ML: 20.0 Profiler Odds: 23.95 Profiler Value: 0.02 Rank: 9


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Race Description
Track:Hol Date: 12/4/02 Race: 4 Surface: Dirt Class: Claiming
Purse: 13000 Dist: 6.0 furlongs
Calculations: Cumulative WPS Sex Restr: None Age Restr: 3yr olds only Date Range: 11/06/02 to 12/31/02
Shape: EEE - 3+ E Speed Index: Normal Style Count: E - 5, EP - 3, P - 1, S - 1, NA - 0 # Races: 7
Average Fractions: Races at Dist: 7 F1= :00.00 F2= :00.00 F3= :00.00 Final= 1:11.73
Filters Used
Track Date Range Surface Dist. Cat. Class No Off Trks

Horse Analysis (Cumulative WPS Calculations)
9 Tin And Tonic(E/P 3) ML: 1.8 Profiler Odds: 0.69 Profiler Value: 0.72 Rank: 1
2 Blue Warrior(E 7) ML: 15.0 Profiler Odds: 3.84 Profiler Value: 0.13 Rank: 2
1 Italian Stogie(S 1) ML: 12.0 Profiler Odds: 11.05 Profiler Value: 0.05 Rank: 3
3 Percy(E 5) ML: 12.0 Profiler Odds: 14.91 Profiler Value: 0.03 Rank: 4
5 Classic Run(E 4) ML: 8.0 Profiler Odds: 14.91 Profiler Value: 0.03 Rank: 4
10 Uncle Johnny(E/P 2) ML: 5.0 Profiler Odds: 14.91 Profiler Value: 0.03 Rank: 4
4 Mountain Flag(E 2) ML: 15.0 Profiler Odds: 50.00 Profiler Value: 0.00 Rank: 7
6 Bold Airman(P 0) ML: 8.0 Profiler Odds: 50.00 Profiler Value: 0.00 Rank: 7
7 Zanshin(E/P 4) ML: 20.0 Profiler Odds: 50.00 Profiler Value: 0.00 Rank: 7
8 Mirek(E 6) ML: 3.5 Profiler Odds: 50.00 Profiler Value: 0.00 Rank: 7


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Race Description
Track:Hol Date: 12/4/02 Race: 5 Surface: Turf Class: Allowance
Purse: 45000 Dist: 12.0 furlongs
Calculations: Cumulative WPS Sex Restr: None Age Restr: 3yr olds and up Date Range: 11/06/02 to 12/31/02
Shape: E + EP - Lone E with EP(s) Speed Index: Normal Style Count: E - 1, EP - 1, P - 2, S - 1, NA - 2 # Races: 1
Average Fractions: Races at Dist: 0 F1= :00.00 F2= :00.00 F3= :00.00 Final= :00.00
Filters Used
Track Date Range Surface Dist. Cat. Class No Off Trks

Horse Analysis (Cumulative WPS Calculations)
6 Mont Saint Michel(E/P 5) ML: 1.4 Profiler Odds: 1.62 Profiler Value: 0.31 Rank: 1
7 Leprechaun Kid(P 1) ML: 4.5 Profiler Odds: 1.62 Profiler Value: 0.31 Rank: 1
2 Red Wing Evan(P 3) ML: 4.0 Profiler Odds: 2.48 Profiler Value: 0.20 Rank: 3
1 Tenaja Trail(NA 8) ML: 6.0 Profiler Odds: 8.25 Profiler Value: 0.06 Rank: 4
3 Saucy Cat(S 3) ML: 8.0 Profiler Odds: 8.25 Profiler Value: 0.06 Rank: 4
5 Tell Them Nothing(E 5) ML: 12.0 Profiler Odds: 8.25 Profiler Value: 0.06 Rank: 4
4 Fire Storm(NA 0) ML: 6.0 Profiler Odds: 50.00 Profiler Value: 0.00 Rank: 7


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Race Description
Track:Hol Date: 12/4/02 Race: 6 Surface: Dirt Class: Claiming
Purse: 26000 Dist: 6.0 furlongs
Calculations: Cumulative WPS Sex Restr: None Age Restr: 2yr olds only Date Range: 11/06/02 to 12/31/02
Shape: EEE - 3+ E Speed Index: Fast Style Count: E - 4, EP - 2, P - 1, S - 1, NA - 0 # Races: 7
Average Fractions: Races at Dist: 7 F1= :00.00 F2= :00.00 F3= :00.00 Final= 1:11.73
Filters Used
Track Date Range Surface Dist. Cat. Class No Off Trks

Horse Analysis (Cumulative WPS Calculations)
4 Obermeister(E/P 7) ML: 2.0 Profiler Odds: 1.69 Profiler Value: 0.30 Rank: 1
8 Spaced Out(E 8) ML: 10.0 Profiler Odds: 1.84 Profiler Value: 0.27 Rank: 2
3 Tioga Lake(E/P 5) ML: 10.0 Profiler Odds: 2.71 Profiler Value: 0.18 Rank: 3
6 Windscore(E 3) ML: 4.0 Profiler Odds: 5.03 Profiler Value: 0.10 Rank: 4
7 Global Games(P 1) ML: 20.0 Profiler Odds: 7.31 Profiler Value: 0.07 Rank: 5
5 Blue Souvie(E 6) ML: 6.0 Profiler Odds: 15.88 Profiler Value: 0.03 Rank: 6
1 Fringe Comment(S 0) ML: 10.0 Profiler Odds: 21.02 Profiler Value: 0.02 Rank: 7
2 Give Away Joe(E 6) ML: 2.5 Profiler Odds: 21.02 Profiler Value: 0.02 Rank: 7


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Race Description
Track:Hol Date: 12/4/02 Race: 7 Surface: Turf Class: Allowance
Purse: 55000 Dist: 5.5 furlongs
Calculations: Cumulative WPS Sex Restr: None Age Restr: 3yr olds and up Date Range: 11/06/02 to 12/31/02
Shape: EEE - 3+ E Speed Index: Slow Style Count: E - 3, EP - 1, P - 1, S - 1, NA - 0 # Races: 3
Average Fractions: Races at Dist: 3 F1= :00.00 F2= :00.00 F3= :00.00 Final= 1:02.35
Filters Used
Track Date Range Surface Dist. Cat. Class No Off Trks

Horse Analysis (Cumulative WPS Calculations)
3 Slew Of The Night(E 8) ML: 5.0 Profiler Odds: 1.23 Profiler Value: 0.41 Rank: 1
5 With Iris(E/P 3) ML: 2.5 Profiler Odds: 1.98 Profiler Value: 0.25 Rank: 2
6 Most Likely(E 3) ML: 3.0 Profiler Odds: 3.29 Profiler Value: 0.15 Rank: 3
1 Not For Me(P 0) ML: 8.0 Profiler Odds: 4.64 Profiler Value: 0.11 Rank: 4
4 Ecstatic(E 4) ML: 2.0 Profiler Odds: 9.12 Profiler Value: 0.05 Rank: 5
2 Jentzen(S 2) ML: 8.0 Profiler Odds: 19.24 Profiler Value: 0.03 Rank: 6


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Race Description
Track:Hol Date: 12/4/02 Race: 8 Surface: Dirt Class: Maiden Claiming
Purse: 21000 Dist: 6.0 furlongs
Calculations: Cumulative WPS Sex Restr: Girls Age Restr: 2yr olds only Date Range: 11/06/02 to 12/31/02
Shape: E - Lone Speed Speed Index: Slow Style Count: E - 1, EP - 0, P - 2, S - 3, NA - 4 # Races: 9
Average Fractions: Races at Dist: 8 F1= :00.00 F2= :00.00 F3= :00.00 Final= 1:12.16
Filters Used
Track Date Range Surface Dist. Cat. Class No Off Trks

Horse Analysis (Cumulative WPS Calculations)
10 Starship Smokester(S 0) ML: 3.5 Profiler Odds: 1.88 Profiler Value: 0.27 Rank: 1
9 Miss Lucky Molar(S 0) ML: 5.0 Profiler Odds: 2.21 Profiler Value: 0.23 Rank: 2
5 High Speed Pursuit(E 5) ML: 6.0 Profiler Odds: 4.44 Profiler Value: 0.11 Rank: 3
8 Don't Tell Wendy(NA 0) ML: 5.0 Profiler Odds: 5.89 Profiler Value: 0.08 Rank: 4
2 Fatal Caper(S 0) ML: 4.5 Profiler Odds: 7.43 Profiler Value: 0.07 Rank: 5
6 Go Tiff Go(NA 0) ML: 15.0 Profiler Odds: 7.84 Profiler Value: 0.06 Rank: 6
1 Famous Woman(P 2) ML: 12.0 Profiler Odds: 10.22 Profiler Value: 0.05 Rank: 7
4 Princess Nicolette(P 2) ML: 10.0 Profiler Odds: 11.01 Profiler Value: 0.05 Rank: 8
7 Dominated Girl(NA 0) ML: 20.0 Profiler Odds: 11.01 Profiler Value: 0.05 Rank: 8
3 Alegrita(NA 0) ML: 6.0 Profiler Odds: 12.72 Profiler Value: 0.04 Rank: 10


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Your welcome! Glad our results match.

Please realize in no way am I trying to say that my database testing and results are from actual plays I have made. I am only trying to share what I find when looking at the tools the program provides. Whether this or any other positive database testing continues to be profitable is another issue all together.

To this point, my best guess is that concentrating on the top profiler and simulator picks will certainly reduce the track take even betting them in all races.

Again, anyone ideas of how to separate the good plays from the bad would certainly be helpful.

Have a great day,

Bill
 
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Here are the results for the above Hollywood top profiler selections using the odds requirements of final closing odds of 2-1 min to 30-1 max.

R1 won but short odds = no play
R2 lost and odds were met = Lost $2 to win and $2 to place = -$4
R3 won and met odds= paid $9.20 for win and $3.80 for place
R4 won but short odds = no play
R5 lost but short odds = no play
R6 2nd and met odds = Lost $2 for win and paid $4.60 for place
R7 2nd but short odds = no play
R8 2nd and met odds = lost $2 for win and paid $5.40 for place

Win bets = 1 of 4 with profit of $1.20 for positive 15% ROI
Place bets = 3 of 4 with profit of $5.80 for positive 72% ROI

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Sorry, I got lost with the dreaded page 2. Didn't see it.
The results are for the profiler html that I posted earlier.
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Thanks, Will and all others doing research. All research is valuable. It's up to us to take this research and see if we can win with it.
 
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