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Yea, I thought that topic might grab someone's attention, but this refers to horses. Smile

Anyone ever perform analysis on how trainers handle filles/mares vs. colts/horses? I remember reading something years ago where some trainers just cannot handle filles/mares. Is this worth an ability connection?
 
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Scott,
My gut feeling is that it wouldn't be worthwhile -- but it would be interesting to see the results. Wonder if anyone over at PA has this info at the tips of a db somewhere already?
 
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I use this in my own program and it is true that some trainers win a lot more with 1 sex then the other. Also age of horses distance surface etc. There are trainers and jockeys out there that are very one sided.
 
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Nathan,

It took me awhile but using FV I have what I believe to be some solid evidence, all be it on a limited sample, of disparities by trainer and sex.

I took a template that contains trainer, sex, finish position and Win$ and loaded data from the TAM meet through yesterday and found some interesting items.

Example: One of the leading trainers, Lynn Scace, shows up as 1 for 10 on horses, colts and geldings but 7 for 20 on fillies and mares. Returned a healthy $76.6 for the $40 wagered. Another: Thomas McCooey Sr, 0 for 10 on males (11% in the money) and 3 for 10 of females. Returned $34.40 for the $20 with 50% ITM on females.

Now I'm not saying this is the holy grail or anything like that but it would be intersting to see some examples on a larger sample. I've seen enough to at least keep me interested in this angle.

Thanks to FV I was able to easily prove my theory

Scott
 
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Scott,

Could you have Nathan post the template and give us an explanation how to use it?

Thanks,

Bill
 
Posts: 517 | Location: Glendale,Arizona,USA | Registered: July 25, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Bill,

The data is part of a very large template that Nathan is currently reviewing before posting. I'll see if I can pull out the important bits of information into a smaller template and send it to Nathan.

Scott
 
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I've posted Scott's abbreviated template. It is in the "Templates" post right under the EquiSim-Using forum topic.
 
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